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Between a Rock and a Bra Place
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Episode Information
Episode #: 12
Air Date: May 11, 2001
Writer(s): Jeremy J. Bargiel
Nina G. Bargiel
Director: Mark Rosman
Prod. #: 111
Starring: Hilary Duff as Lizzie McGuire

Lalaine as Miranda Sanchez
Adam Lamberg as David Gordon
Jake Thomas as Matt McGuire
Hallie Todd as Jo McGuire
Robert Carradine as Sam McGuire

Recurring: Ashlie Brillault as Kate Sanders

Davida Williams as Claire Miller

Guest(s): Ty Upshaw as Mr. Coppersmith

Amelia Marshall as Mrs. Miller
David Carradine as David
Dana de Celis as Saleswoman

Episode Guide
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Between a Rock and a Bra Place is the twelfth episode of the first season of Lizzie McGuire.


Lizzie and Miranda go shopping for their first bras, and are horrified when Jo insists on joining them. Meanwhile, Gordo helps Matt film a video to try out as Jet Li's sidekick.


Lizzie and Miranda note that when a girl gets her first bra, her personality somehow seems to change. They decide they are ready for their first, and hatch a plan to get Jo to drop them off at the mall, where they will shop for "school supplies." Lizzie is a terrible liar, though, and blurts out the real reason for the trip. Jo is overjoyed to help the girls out, but she embarrasses them as they are shopping.

Lizzie is very harsh with her mother, telling her that she and Miranda are old enough to do their own shopping and to leave them alone. The girls face further embarrassment when they run into Kate, Claire, and their English teacher Mr. Coppersmith. They also discover that they don't know what to look for. They find Jo, and Lizzie apologizes for hurting her feelings. Lizzie and Miranda ask for her help and Jo says yes.

Meanwhile, with Matt

Matt wants to enter the Jet Li sidekick contest. Sam convinces Jo to go along with it, under the pretense that since Matt cannot win, someone else will deliver the bad news, and they get to claim the credit as cool parents. Sam and Gordo agree to help Matt make a martial arts movie as his contest entry, but it doesn't go well. Sam bows out of the production, but then phones a friend named David, a kung fu teacher, to help instruct Matt. After David helps them make a successful video, he vanishes. In the epilogue, Sam panics when he receives a call informing him that Matt has won the contest.


  • At one point Sam says of David, "I've known him all my life. He's like a brother to me." In real life, the late David Carradine is half-brother to series star Robert Carradine (Sam).
  • When they show Kate and Claire in the beginning, in the background we can hear that little cheer from Rumors when Lizzie confesses to Kate about having spread the rumor.
  • Gordo only shares two scenes with Lizzie and Miranda in this episode. The first is in Lizzie's house when Lizzie blurts out to Jo that she wants a bra and the second is the three-way phone conversation near the end of the episode.
  • Close to the end of the episode, Sam picks up the cordless phone, which is lying atop a hardcover book. The title of the book is MYST: The Book Of Ti'ana. It is the second book in a series of three science fiction stories which go along with the very popular PC game MYST.
  • The clip of Kate and Claire being "worshipped" by the other students is also seen in Gordo's Video.
  • The episode title comes from the expression "caught between a rock and a hard place" which refers to two mythical beasts in Greek mythology. Scylla was a monstrous multi-headed spider who would eat hapless sailors passing near her cave. However, in order to steer clear of this catastrophe one would have to sail near Charybdis who was supposedly able to swallow a large portion of the ocean (including ships) and spit it back out (without the ships, of course). The same expression was also a popular phrase used during the 1920's in America. The rock in this Lizzie episode refers to the stone Matt tries to grab from David Carradine in his movie, and the bra part obviously refers to Lizzie's shopping trip for a bra.
  • While Gordo is filming Matt's video he is wearing a baseball hat. He is obviously copying the movie director Steven Spielberg, who also wears a baseball hat while filming. Gordo also makes a reference to Spielberg and his hat in Gordo's Video.
  • Jennie Woods, the non-speaking character who's a terror at dodge ball, is the name of a former classmate of Nina Bargiel, who co-wrote the script. The real Jennie embarrassed Nina once in the sixth grade by unhooking her bra in front of a large group of students. "I always told her I'd get back at her, and I did in front of millions of people," Bargiel said. Also, Nina and her brother Jeremy (who is her writing partner) had an English teacher named Mr. Coppersmith, whose name they also use here.
  • Sam McGuire recalls that he won an essay contest in 1976. According to Gordo's Bar Mitzvah, he would have been 15 years old then.
  • The light blue leather jacket Lizzie wears is the same one she wore in I Do, I Don't and that Miranda wore in Obsession.
  • Lizzie has had her favorite stuffed animal Mr. Snuggles since she was two years old. There are several quick still-photo shots of Lizzie and Mr. Snuggles from When Moms Attack that are used here.
  • There is no blooper reel at the end of this episode. It's replaced by the "credits" for Matt and Gordo's kung-fu movie. This is only the second time to date that an episode did not include a blooper reel. The first time was in Pool Party.
  • Adam Lamberg named this as his favorite Lizzie episode in an interview in the Long Island, New York newspaper, “Newsday.” Jake Thomas also stated that it was his favorite episode on his website because of the kung fu.
  • Kate and Claire do their high-five/hair-flip combination for the first time.
  • The song that plays when Matt shoots his karate video is "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas.
  • In May, 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, the cast reunited for an online script reading of this episode.


  • Even though Gordo seems to know about the television series Kung Fu, he does not know who David Carradine is. This is especially surprising considering that he is an aspiring film director and Carradine has been a pop culture icon for over thirty years.
  • At one point there is an error in the closed captioning when Sam is identified as Simon.
  • At the end of the episode when we see Gordo's final video we see a black square behind the fence to reflect light for the show.
  • Nitpick: How exactly were they able to film Gordo and Sam filming during the credits of the movie that they made?
  • In the scene where Jo is in the food court, she is shown in several alternating shots to be holding a drink at mouth level, then holding it while it's on the table.
  • When Gordo comes over to the McGuire house he is wearing a long sleeve dark blue pull-over shirt under a pastel white short sleeve shirt. When he returns with his camera the white shirt is no longer white, it has no pastel design and it now has long sleeves. Yet in one of the final scenes where Lizzie, Miranda and Gordo are speaking on the phone he is again wearing the short sleeve shirt over the blue shirt.
  • As Lizzie and Miranda are standing at their lockers discussing how to get to the mall, both close their doors. Seconds later Lizzie's locker door can be seen open, but in the following shot it is again closed.
  • Lizzie and Miranda would certainly have already gotten their first bras.


Sam: Listen. He's not gonna win it, so we don't have to tell him no; somebody else will. Meanwhile, we get the credit for being really cool parents.

Lizzie: I want a bra! Okay?! A bra!! A bra—WE want a bra! I want a BRA! (reverb) BRA Bra bra

Sam: Well, how about those...uh...Mets, huh? Guys?
Matt: I don't care. I'm just glad we don't have to talk about bras anymore.
Gordo: I...I have to go home and do something...anything...anything but this.

Clerk: Can I help you two with something?
Jo: Yeah, hi. We are shopping for their first bras! (To mortified Lizzie) This is so cool! (To the clerk) Where's the Little Miss section?
Clerk: Over there, by the footie pajamas.

Animated Lizzie: This has got to be enough to get me into the witness relocation program.

Sam: I've got some interview questions for you.
Gordo: (Reading) What's your name? How old are you? Where do you go to school?
Sam: That is my absolute favorite.

Gordo: I think we need to shoot our own martial arts movie.
Matt: You are way too cool to be Lizzie's friend.

Miranda: What are we looking for?
Lizzie: I don't know. I thought you knew!
Miranda: I thought I did, too. There's all these numbers, and letters. 32's, 34's 36...A's, B's, C's!
Lizzie: Well, I mean, Kate owns one, right? How hard can it be?

Sam: I'm sorry, Gordo, but I don't think a Kung Fu ripoff is as effective as a well-written and perfectly grammatically correct essay.

Pop Culture

David: Hello, young grasshopper.

  • In the early seventies television western Kung Fu, Daivd Carradine plays Kwai Chang Caine, a Shaolin monk who wanders the American west. In flashback sequences, a young Caine is trained by an aged monk, who refers to him as "young grasshopper." [1]

Miranda: Jenny Woods has a great arm. She's like the Mike Tyson of dodge ball.

  • Mike Tyson is considered one of the best heavyweight boxers of all time. [2]

Animated Lizzie: If I had one, I'd be Lizzie, Warrior Princess.

  • Xena: Warrior Princess is a fantasy television show, primarily set in ancient Greece. [3]

Miranda: Jenny gets one and she becomes Brandi Chastain.

  • Brandi Chastain is a retired American soccer player, renowned for stripping to her sports bra, after scoring the winning penalty kick in the 1999 World Cup Finals. [4]

Claire: They don't sell Underoos here.

  • Underoos is a brand of underwear, primarily for children, that utilizes licensed character designs. [5]

Dubbed Lines
In the martial arts movie, Gordo's words are badly synched with his lips. This is a reference to bad dubbing of Asian martial arts movies that have been translated into English. [6]

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